User talk:Michael Harpur Edwards

Dr Edwards, we do appreciate your help. Please feel free to put direct links to WikiDoc pages. Those links take users to the front page of Wikisurgery website, and then to another one (or you may correct the link).

Hello,

Many thanks for the talk.

Who is this? Can I have your name? I am pleased to be of use to Wikidoc. Can you spell out exactly how I can make a direct link between Wikidoc page and Wikisurgery?

So far I have been putting

My name is Cafer Zorkun. Here you can find an example;

http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Abdominoperineal_resection

Hello Cafer,

Many thanks for your instant replies.

The External link idea looks good and quick to do.

I would like to route the links through Wikisurgery so that the users will see the disclaimers about the information.

Would you be agreeable to Wikisurgery appearing on the name of the External links?

eg


 * Abdominoperineal resection of rectum: Operative script from Wikisurgery


 * Abdominoperineal resection of rectum: Patient information from Wikisurgery

I can easily put these External links on the pages already linked to Wikidoc and remove the original links.

The operative scripts on Wikisurgery are unique in depth of detail. They could even be called Experience equivalents in these days,

at least in the UK, of restrictions on training time at the operating table.

The training programs in basic surgical skills and in basic laparoscopy are also unique in being on line and having unprecedented

depth of information. Each step in the programs is an article in itself.

eg


 * How to use a scalpel

The 300+images in the programs make a useful training resource.


 * Operative images

Wikisurgery is a branch of the International Journal of Surgery (http://www.theijs.com)

Would Wikidoc be willing to feature on its main page these links with Wikisurgery?

I have about 30 more scripts and patient information articles to link to Wikidoc.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes,

Michael Harpur Edwards 05:44, 29 July 2008 (PDT)

Hi Michael,

First of all, I have no doubt about WikiSurgery's content. I am happy to review and use its content.

My questions are;


 * Why would you prefer to link WikiSurgery page if related content is part of a different site?
 * Would you please use "external links" section when you want to add an external link?

"External Links" should be user friendly, and they are welcome to WikiDoc if they link to the related webpage.


 * A page content is (only) a link to another page. Following page is not a proper example for WikiDoc: http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php?title=PEG_gastroscopy&rcid=465644 WikiDoc is not a collection of external links.

Note: Please, do not add WH, WS, SI, EH templates to any page if they're already there.

Kind regards,

Cafer

Hello Cafer,

Thanks for clarifying the external links mechanism.

I am changing the original links to the External links at present.

eg http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php?title=PEG_gastroscopy&rcid=465644 is replaced by:

External link

 * PEG gastroscopy:PatientInformation on Wikisurgery

I should have all the scripts and patient information in the External link format by the end of the week.

I now know not to use WH, WS, SI, EH templates to any page if they're already there.

About a link to Wikisurgery rather than Surgicalscripts.com:

Surgicalscripts.com was my own website where I stored the surgical scripts.

The information leaflets come from work I did in my firm Scalpel Information Systems, which I ran during my surgical practice.

Scalpel Information Systems was also the store for the skills and laparoscopic training programs (and also an open operation

training program still to be uploaded).

Putting all these ventures on one site, Wikisurgery, seemed an efficient way of consolidating the work.

You will see that Wikisurgery adds a very powerful warning to the user to cover inevitable differences of opinion among surgeons

about surgical techniques.

eg * Abdominoperineal resection of rectum: Operative script from Wikisurgery

This warning is not present in Surgicalscripts.com.

Does this answer your questions?

Please let me know if there are any more teething troubles to sort out.

Best wishes,

Michael

Hello Cafer,

Could you please check the external links that I have put in for Hernia, Inguinal_hernia, Femoral_hernia and Umbilical_hernia.

If they are OK, I can do the same for the other operation scripts and patient information.

Best wishes,

Michael

6 August Hello Cafer,

I have taken the liberty of creating external links to Wikisurgery for just over 100 articles (operation scripts or information for patients).

I hope this OK with you. Would you like me to send you a list of them?

Best wishes,Michael Harpur Edwards 04:46, 6 August 2008 (PDT)

Hi Michael,

External links with proper directions are always welcome. Thanks for all those proper WikiSurgery links. I hope we also will have your contributions in WikiDoc.

Please do not hesitate to write if you have any question.

Best wishes,

Cafer

11 August

Hello Cafer,

I have indexed the Wikisurgery external links so far.

The contribution, I think, is quite substantial.

Would you be willing to consider a WikiDoc thumbnail on the Wikisurgery main page linking to WikiDoc and something similar on the WikiDoc main page? We are planning a redesign of our main page right now.

About contributing to WikiDoc pages directly, some of the operation scripts are very larger eg 1.1 MB for the aortic aneurysm graft.

Is there some way of fitting such articles onto a wiki apart from splitting them up into many smaller sections?

Best wishes,

Michael